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AI lab tier list

I asked people which tier they'd put each lab in:

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Anthropicconsensus

OpenAIconsensus

n-1

1 generation behind

Google DeepMindconsensus

xAIconsensus

Meta (Muse Spark)over half say n-1

Moonshot (Kimi)over half say n-1, some n-2

Zhipu (GLM)over half say n-1, some n-2

DeepSeekover half say n-1, some n-2

Thinking Machines (Inkling)leans n-1, some put n-2

n-2

2 generations behind

Alibaba (Qwen)leans n-2, some put n-1

ByteDance (Seed)over half say n-2

Xiaomi (MiMo)leans n-2, some put n-1

MiniMaxover half say n-2, some n-1

Tencent (Hy)over half say n-2

NVIDIA (Nemotron)leans n-2, some put n-3+

n-3+

3+ generations behind

Microsoft (MAI)over half say n-3+, some n-2

Cohereover half say n-3+, some n-2

Mistralover half say n-3+

Amazon (Nova)consensus

Appleconsensus

Consensus = 75%+, over half = 51%-74%, leans = the most common pick but under half, some = 20%+.

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I asked 70 people. Engineers/researchers/founders at AI data cos, people at labs (I didn't count votes for their own lab), and founders/engineers at other startups. I didn't vote.